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constalations dont work for me

you have to invest all of the stars then you get it

Is total reset hard capped?
"AP you would gain from resetting now: 60.46 k"

it should now, it's just the bonus: maximun ^3. How much do you have?

I haven't done any previous "total reset".  So, I have zero AP. Or do you mean something else?

Maybe my math is off, but 61485 would buy everything. But the number is stuck on 6.05e+4 (or 60.46 k) which is just a bit shy. Game has been chugging for a while now with no change. Also tried reloading. (Just now, a few times.)

because it grows slowly, depending on your amount of atoms, prestige, lives and others

how do you get mind levels

you need to have 20 Super Humans at first and then you'll need Skill Points ans Artificial Ingenuity to infuse XP on the Mind

I have e250 atoms.

can you send a full screenshot of the situation?

ive prestiged since but when i get back i will

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this has happened multiple times, between ~115e and up to the number in the screenshot, no matter what research i've gotten or the stage i'm at

Oh, that's because you reached a hardcap, just to evade huge exploits, don't worry. In the guide it says that the Prestige generation stops increasing significatily at some point

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why do the toggle automations on individual things like the human skill auto and the atom gen auto keep getting turned off when i prestige? i keep having this happen and i dont like it plz fix

Agreed, this is really annoying.

So… did i won teh game? :>


yeah, you can stack more APs since you can get even more Atom bonuses, since the maximun bonus is ^3 (300k APs)

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You mean to play once again and get someting to buy there?  I still got 1.2×10^4 points to buy something there but there is nothing to buy. 
I'll try to get there in few days but… not sure if it will be enough challenging  to keep me on place ;D


If not and if you will try to start again think about:

IMO

- game machanic should not be AI created as AI don't understand "time" and it always will be broken and need strange patches to make it working

- resources can be generated fast but the most expensive should always be the fastest

- the things you are spending resources should give few ways to play so spending resource 1 on things A, B, C should IMO work the way you are buying A the price od A B and C are going higher at the same rate. So different playes are laying with different game and are not clones of each other

- you should avoid a moment when player have to wait more than few days for something, but in good balanced game it's ok to generate resources offline

- things like skills should not be resetted every time, skill is skill, humans got it 

- when you are resetting generator but have generated resource, the resource stock should not be resetted, just stopped in the place

- WTF number system is wrong and confusing. it's ok for kilo, mega... tera, but no more. 

- and last one tab which shows all progress would be nice, justto screenshot it and compare with other players. some charts, numbers... all your achievements and levels in one place


Thank you for the game!

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Okay, thank you so much too!! I meant you could stack more APs just to collect them, since you already bought everything. I'll keep attention to this for a future update :D

OK so i did it once again... 

0.6.0 is out Lets goooooooooooooooo

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Hello, my humans have been massively reduced, i was on trillions and now am at ~675 billions. 6.0, 154 super humans and 76 meta humans. is this an intended change? thank you :)

/e did the total ai reset, now its not important anymore :D

/e2 Galatic Favor doesnt work, still getting only 1 GP on forming planetary system.

Yeah, I nerfed them to evade massive Human gains. If you notice that this slows down a lot your progression you can always notify it!

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i think it didn affect the super human gain, so it was a nonsense sorry :)

/e i am a dummy, at the second planetary system, it gave me two.

Pretty sure i started a month ago and i am just now getting my first meta human. Is that accurate progression, or am i just bad at the game?

well, in which version did you started? In one month I made many balance changes and I added more content

I think a few days before 5.2

well, then it's normal, there were some bad balancings over there

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The Meta human knowledge for humans, as well as assigning them to human discount doesn't seem to be working.  I assign all 8 of my Meta humans, but I don't get any more humans than I would have previously. The same is also true if I check my humans per ascension before and after getting the "Human Potential" upgrade. I think it might be additive rather than multiplicative like the description says.

You are generating so many humans so difference is so small you cannot see it. Anyway there is a kinda cap on how many super humans you can have at once, and it's growing slowly, so it does not matter how much humans you can generate, because of SH limit. For me it's now 145 SH max 

Regardless of any superhuman limit, the humans I am getting are not going up,  I am stuck at e11 humans, one upgrade of human potential should bring it up to e16, I think the upgrade was simply balanced to not be multiplicative,  but the upgrade says multiplicative. I'm not getting any boost at all to my human production, and it's disappointing to see after I spent so much Meta Knowledge since it's not easy to get.

okay, thanks for the report, I'll take a look to thi

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The new upgrade for the AI: Quark Duplication also doesn't seem to do anything.  I have the upgrade, and 9.06e12 humans if I reset, but I then bought 6 million quark factories and still will only get 9.06e12 humans. I think something might just be going wrong with the Human calculation for all of these.

my black hole colliders have disappeared

which version are you playing? And in which stage of the game?

current version and i have 20 meta humans, 120 super humans and 5 trillion humans

okay, I'll keep that on mind for a future fix

dont know if its a bug or what but prestige keeps locking to qi after i get past z and wont go any higher no matter what i do.

at that point you have unlocked and can afford 

Temporal Prestige

Passively generate 1% of your current Prestige Points per second, per level.

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A button to auto distribute Humans and Super-Humans equally between all options would be super appreciated.

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Are you sure you need it? ;-)

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Well, yeah? I would not have asked for it if I didn't think it would be useful for people, me included.

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Are you using WTF units or scientific units?

On my example:


Particle acc 10^5483717 

stellar nur:  10^5411287

quark 10^5411264

supernova 10^5411266

black hjole 10^5411328

particle acc is 10^70000 times larger there is no sense to add humans to any other generator. Why? Because you need 10^70000seconds  on any other generator to make same the first one is generating every second. How many years is 10^70000s? 

One year is 3 × 10^7 seconds, one century is 3 × 10^9 seconds

SO NO you don't need it ;-)

I don't get it

That's not what they're asking for. They want to be able to distribute humans and superhumans evenly (and I do too). It's not about what's "most optimal" according to your metrics.

Ok so please explain me, for what reason you want to distribute them evenly?  

Just for fun? OK but this way why it should be even for all parts? Just make it random in few clicks ... if you want to roleplay it it's ok to have different workers at different places. Isn't it?

How to get stellar nurseries (I'm already at stardust after what felt like a week or so)

Have you bought the sun yet?

Bought everything in the universe page just not sun and still no nurseries... can't see anywhere else they are generated either... 

they're one of the main generators

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I was looking for something new... Not something that has been useless for so long

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Really enjoying your game! I've got some questions and stuff though.

I don't see anywhere to get Black Hole Colliders. I can assign humans to them but I see nowhere to buy them. Am I missing something? Nevermind lol I unlocked Super Humans now.

I saw in patch notes for 0.3.0 that you could change to scientific notation in the settings but I don't see that. Was it removed? I'm just blind. I found it.

I would like to suggest adding a popup the first time you purchase any of the things that wipe your progress making sure you know what you'll lose and what you'll keep. I got 1 Human and it basically started from square one. I saw that it says it'll wipe progress basically except Humans in the guide but I think it would be helpful to have a warning because I completely forgot about it by the time I got to them and just clicked without letting the amount I'd get accumulate to something substantial.

Edit: Just remembered the bugs I wanted to report.
The buttons are very jittery when buying things a lot. They resize constantly because the amount you'd get that'd in parenthesis keeps moving between being beside "Buy Max" to being under it.
Prestige resets the toggles for auto-buying Human and Super Human skills.

I don't really understand the game progression. How far along is 26 super humans?

Have you seen the Guide tab?

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Is there anything after the meta humans?

And how long does it take to get to it?

no, there isn't, I was working on it right now haha. Maybe today I'll release the first Alpha, but I'm not sure

Yippee!!! I'm currently around level 150 on the mind, but there are some "bugs" I found. I haven't really payed attention, but is there somewhere I can submit them?

How many meta humans do you have?

you can submit them here, or in the discord server, where do you want

Does star dust do anything mechanically? Example for what I mean = each life gives some extra atom generation, does star dust do anything like that?

Stardust by itself doesn't seem to do anything. But it lets you get moons and planets, which gives you stardust and energy, which lets you get galactic points, and those DO have mechanical effects.

on the other hand after a while you have infinite amount of stardust so all those extensions are free of charge. :D

Also is it really necessary that if you cash your humans the collected SkillPoints ar resetted? Ok the SP/s is new but why what you have shouldn't stay on counter. not only for SP but for all counters. 

#idea #playability

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Hello, i got 10 superhumans but the universe tab didnt pop out

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You need to get the universal power research.

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I got it, thanks man

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53/50? 


Oh… same here

104/50


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Me too 😅
51/50


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Shouldnt it be meta knowledge or something usefull? generation of mind points is event too fast .... it's no longer idle game :D 



I agree, since meta humans (and therefore meta knowledge) are so hard to get, at least something to increase rate of gathering knowledge would be nice

On the other hand I believe next few mind milestones will give meta knowledge modificators as (how it looks) the game mechanic is created by AI and than just patched by human.

Is meta human generating slow? i don't think so it's 1-3 MH per day... pretty ok for idle game IMO

The fact that superhuman cost increases each time, means you realistically can only get so many, especially since superhumans are sort of a limited resource given that the humans price increases each time you prestige for them

Why if the Mind bonus is the same for Humans and Superhumans it is 200 times more bonus for SH? 



idk, maybe super humans are more powerful than regular humans, and so the game prioritizes it

Hello guys, love the game but have a problem. i got the negative number popup and chose the super human upgrade and instantly got the popup again and could do another super human but now my atom generation is stuck at 0. i failed to notice it and missed the refresh window. i am at 115 super humans and mind level 178. i cant reset anymore because the subject tab doesnt pop and i am stuck with 90 humans. :( does anyone know how to fix that? thank you

Hi, so, did you chose the Super Human ascension option, and the pop up appeared again? And now the Atoms is 0?

Hello theshadowmaster, thank you for the fun game. :) short explanation: after creating a meta human (dont know exactly, it started at around ~30 meta humans) super humans creation only got up to 110, but i could instantly buy another two and then 1 (with humans (around 14,5 trillion and full data packages)) so i got up to 113 and let the game run to get mind levels with skills (and keep ingenuity gain high (3,6m/s)). today i came back to infuse with some more sx XP for mind but i had the negative number popup, i didnt want to waste the XP so i chose the super human option, but the popup came up again in a really short time so i chose it again but now my atoms stay frozen at 0 with 115 super humans and 37 meta human. PP and ingenuity are running fine, sp is running slowly (as i cant upgrade, with 2,26m/s). thank you again for keeping engaged with the community here :)

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mhm in that case i should fix a little bug there. For next time, choose the reverse option which basically makes the negative positive. In most cases, the negative bug just reverses your quantity of atoms or other variables affected, but not everytime, that's why I added 2 more options. You did well by chosing the Super Humans, since it's a good alternative, but not the recommended one. I created this tab as a wall to stop the negatives to take over the game. I've been trying to solve it for months but I've not reached to solve it since the problem is bigger than I thought. 

I'll solve this little bug you found. And to not to make you lose your game, you can send me your game save to me in the Discord community and I can give you 1 single atom to keep it running so you can continue playing, otherwise you'll be in that point for eternity since you can't do a lot of things without atoms!

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Do you think a way to individualise which techs are being auto bought could be added, like with generator and subject purchase automation? 

As is, I have turned off Super human and Life tech  automation, just because some of them seem fairly useless, eg Consciousness expansion seems to be the only life tech that is really worthwhile to buy

depend on the momet, but for the most of time all but infinity project have turned off to not waste time on generating points for nothing... then i'm biuing it if price is less then is generated in 1s 

is the final stage in the guide menu (the one that requires ### meta humans) actually implemented yet? or is it just teasing a future update?

It's just teasing something.

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The assignment menus for Humans and Super Humans could use some tweaking. Clicking +10% over and over for uneven splits is not appealing. Maybe adding 25% and 50% options would help.

For what reason you want to split them? :> Especially humans. :> For super humans the correct split is 1 and teh rest. :D

I mean add buttons to allow plus or minus 25 or 50 percent. Since the +10% button only adds 10% of the unassigned total, the current method of adding humans to the generator bonuses becomes very tedious once you have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of them.

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Add one SH to infinite atom and ALL to infinite knowledge... done. 

Add all humans to particle accelerator ... DONE *



* if you are just beginning add ALL to the place where you are generating most atoms ...  anyway ALL in one place. It is possoble to put it in few places but it hase no sense at all ... 

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I have noticed a bug where when my prestige points would be 2.28e+118 for one prestige, it resets to 2.28e+18 and doesn't go back up. I am also unable to click on it to prestige once this bug occurs

i think this is intentional, after 1e114/1AA PP you'll get softlocked as stated in the guide tab

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Is there any way to improve how many Lives/s ?  I am stuck at 26.5m Lives/s which is taking forever to generate humans...

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I'm improving it for 0.5.2, don't worry. Did you unlocked The Mind?

Another problem. Cant up Super Humans.... Have 94, create more 14..

I Transcendence to make a Meta, and I back again with only 94 Super Humans.

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Meta Humans now requires +1 Super Human each time, so it's usual to keep spending more Super Humans when you want to create more Meta Humans if that's what you mean. I'm working for the next Alpha Update

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exchange ALL your SH into MH and than create them (SH) back at once. It's much faster and cheaper strategy.
 

mhmhm do you mean, like a new reset? Or that's too much? If so I need to change the Meta Humans system since now you're just creating MH 1 by 1

1 by 1 but it's faster to do it 1 by 1 until all super humans are recycled to meta humans and than just recreate them also in one cycle. Mind level is the thing which is slowering it a bit ... 

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Im on 0.5.2 Alpha. 20.00 Super Humans did not open "The Mind" Tab...

To me too. It doesn't open. I have 24 super human

Export data, import in 0.5.1. Will open mind tab. Export again and import in 0.5.2. But will cause another problem, will raise the Stellar Nurseries prices for Planetary Systems.

I just divided the Stellar Nurseries requirement by 2, are you sure each one is now more expensive?

I think it was beacuse the export and import thing in 0.5.1, maybe it gets the older prices from 051. 

I had to do it again for "Meta Humans" to appear as well. I'm currently doing "Meta Humans" 1 by 1. I noticed two bugs. After "Transcendence" to create a "Meta," the "Subject" tab just freezes. I need to hit "Ascend for x Humans" to unfreeze it.

The other bug is in the "The Mind" tab; the page doesn't remember the button selected for 1 10 100 1000 MAX.

I'm playing, but I don't know if any more tabs will appear, since the last two didn't.

Sorry for not answering properly this weekend, I'm on it now, thanks for your feedback!

Why do I have to scroll the game in the web browser, can we make the game use the entire page instead of an iframe inside of a scrollable page, its so annoying to have to keep scrolling to do anything

There's a fullscreen button on the bottom right. Click on it

I don't want to run the game in fullscreen, I use other apps, that's what a PC is for. It doesn't matter though I modified the CSS of the site to make it work, the only bad thing now is the decision to place the Universe button at the bottom of the page so I have to scroll to the bottom of the page to open the menu, inconsistant.

you can download the game, click the html archive and you'll play the game in the full page, with no fullscreen. I could also make the window for the web version wider if you want, but I can't do almost anything against that itch UI

Ah, its itch. I should have known. I didn't know you had no control over it. Sorry for bringing it up. The game is very fun, you should consider adding it to Steam.

Is it just me, or is the only thing that is really effective for mind levels is skill points? Like, ingenuity gives 10,000 times less mind points, even after saving ingenuity up for much longer.

I'm working on balancing it

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I get that it evolves each time and gets faster each time, but from getting the second prestige point to getting the 10th it's the same game every time. Who wants to play that?

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don't know if you're new to the genre, but that's how this kind of game usually works

oh

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this looks like it was made using google ai studio

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it isn't, I made it entirely. Only the one thing I used AI for is for the icons, since I wanted to make the icons with React, but since I'm not good making arts and I've never used React in that way, so I asked AI, maybe that's why you see the Skill Point and Artificial Ingenuity like a weird thing. But since the game is still in development and I care more about the game functionality, the Icons could wait a bit longer, when everything is more stable :]

Does that mean the icon for skill point/artificial ingenuity is just a random shape? I've been trying to figure out what the shape is. The best idea I've got is a baby in parentheses, lol. 

i do find that really hard to believe, especially considering that the word "Max" is completely offcentred and the x in the settings too. the entire game also just has that ai look, but I cant prove anything anyways

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how am i supposed to get to the mind or my first galactic point? the game randomly slowed down to a stand still

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Don't you think you should reballance meta humans CPU prices?

Even WITHOUT using metahumans to speedup generation MindPoints it looks strange

from the beginning:

1. +256kB: 10^2 / 10^-2 = 10^4s / 60 = 166min / 60 = 2,7h 

2. +4MB:   10^3 / 0.50 = 2000s / 60 = 33min

3. +64MB:  10^4 / 25 = 400s / 60 = 7min

4. +1GB:   10^5 / 2.5 * 10^3 = 40s

5. +1GB: INSTANT... upto x14 or even more

Isn't it too fast as for idle game? :D

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Yeah the game is playable, but horribly balanced.

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Yes, same for the universe. I bought everything (in few hours) now have 703qi stardust and 206qi energy in magazine (who knows how much is it as I don't understand WTF units) if anything will be added there i will buy it instantly OR it will be so expensive that new player will never buy it. :>

which part was SPECIALLY faster from the Universe? Maybe the moons and planets?

no idea i've bought everything in few hours after few days being stuck when you removed... asteroids ? 

It's not a problem but stadust still counting right now it's 1.25sx (still no idea if it is really much :D) so i've got it and can spend for anything OR you will make new things so expensive that new players will hit the wall so... there is no good solution. :>


I'm sorry, which formula are you using? Thanks for your constant feedback btw it's helping a lot!

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