Also is it really necessary that if you cash your humans the collected SkillPoints ar resetted? Ok the SP/s is new but why what you have shouldn't stay on counter. not only for SP but for all counters.
On the other hand I believe next few mind milestones will give meta knowledge modificators as (how it looks) the game mechanic is created by AI and than just patched by human.
Is meta human generating slow? i don't think so it's 1-3 MH per day... pretty ok for idle game IMO
Hello guys, love the game but have a problem. i got the negative number popup and chose the super human upgrade and instantly got the popup again and could do another super human but now my atom generation is stuck at 0. i failed to notice it and missed the refresh window. i am at 115 super humans and mind level 178. i cant reset anymore because the subject tab doesnt pop and i am stuck with 90 humans. :( does anyone know how to fix that? thank you
Hello theshadowmaster, thank you for the fun game. :) short explanation: after creating a meta human (dont know exactly, it started at around ~30 meta humans) super humans creation only got up to 110, but i could instantly buy another two and then 1 (with humans (around 14,5 trillion and full data packages)) so i got up to 113 and let the game run to get mind levels with skills (and keep ingenuity gain high (3,6m/s)). today i came back to infuse with some more sx XP for mind but i had the negative number popup, i didnt want to waste the XP so i chose the super human option, but the popup came up again in a really short time so i chose it again but now my atoms stay frozen at 0 with 115 super humans and 37 meta human. PP and ingenuity are running fine, sp is running slowly (as i cant upgrade, with 2,26m/s). thank you again for keeping engaged with the community here :)
mhm in that case i should fix a little bug there. For next time, choose the reverse option which basically makes the negative positive. In most cases, the negative bug just reverses your quantity of atoms or other variables affected, but not everytime, that's why I added 2 more options. You did well by chosing the Super Humans, since it's a good alternative, but not the recommended one. I created this tab as a wall to stop the negatives to take over the game. I've been trying to solve it for months but I've not reached to solve it since the problem is bigger than I thought.
I'll solve this little bug you found. And to not to make you lose your game, you can send me your game save to me in the Discord community and I can give you 1 single atom to keep it running so you can continue playing, otherwise you'll be in that point for eternity since you can't do a lot of things without atoms!
Do you think a way to individualise which techs are being auto bought could be added, like with generator and subject purchase automation?
As is, I have turned off Super human and Life tech automation, just because some of them seem fairly useless, eg Consciousness expansion seems to be the only life tech that is really worthwhile to buy
depend on the momet, but for the most of time all but infinity project have turned off to not waste time on generating points for nothing... then i'm biuing it if price is less then is generated in 1s
The assignment menus for Humans and Super Humans could use some tweaking. Clicking +10% over and over for uneven splits is not appealing. Maybe adding 25% and 50% options would help.
I mean add buttons to allow plus or minus 25 or 50 percent. Since the +10% button only adds 10% of the unassigned total, the current method of adding humans to the generator bonuses becomes very tedious once you have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of them.
Add one SH to infinite atom and ALL to infinite knowledge... done.
Add all humans to particle accelerator ... DONE *
* if you are just beginning add ALL to the place where you are generating most atoms ... anyway ALL in one place. It is possoble to put it in few places but it hase no sense at all ...
I have noticed a bug where when my prestige points would be 2.28e+118 for one prestige, it resets to 2.28e+18 and doesn't go back up. I am also unable to click on it to prestige once this bug occurs
Meta Humans now requires +1 Super Human each time, so it's usual to keep spending more Super Humans when you want to create more Meta Humans if that's what you mean. I'm working for the next Alpha Update
1 by 1 but it's faster to do it 1 by 1 until all super humans are recycled to meta humans and than just recreate them also in one cycle. Mind level is the thing which is slowering it a bit ...
Export data, import in 0.5.1. Will open mind tab. Export again and import in 0.5.2. But will cause another problem, will raise the Stellar Nurseries prices for Planetary Systems.
I think it was beacuse the export and import thing in 0.5.1, maybe it gets the older prices from 051.
I had to do it again for "Meta Humans" to appear as well. I'm currently doing "Meta Humans" 1 by 1. I noticed two bugs. After "Transcendence" to create a "Meta," the "Subject" tab just freezes. I need to hit "Ascend for x Humans" to unfreeze it.
The other bug is in the "The Mind" tab; the page doesn't remember the button selected for 1 10 100 1000 MAX.
I'm playing, but I don't know if any more tabs will appear, since the last two didn't.
Why do I have to scroll the game in the web browser, can we make the game use the entire page instead of an iframe inside of a scrollable page, its so annoying to have to keep scrolling to do anything
I don't want to run the game in fullscreen, I use other apps, that's what a PC is for. It doesn't matter though I modified the CSS of the site to make it work, the only bad thing now is the decision to place the Universe button at the bottom of the page so I have to scroll to the bottom of the page to open the menu, inconsistant.
you can download the game, click the html archive and you'll play the game in the full page, with no fullscreen. I could also make the window for the web version wider if you want, but I can't do almost anything against that itch UI
Ah, its itch. I should have known. I didn't know you had no control over it. Sorry for bringing it up. The game is very fun, you should consider adding it to Steam.
Is it just me, or is the only thing that is really effective for mind levels is skill points? Like, ingenuity gives 10,000 times less mind points, even after saving ingenuity up for much longer.
I get that it evolves each time and gets faster each time, but from getting the second prestige point to getting the 10th it's the same game every time. Who wants to play that?
it isn't, I made it entirely. Only the one thing I used AI for is for the icons, since I wanted to make the icons with React, but since I'm not good making arts and I've never used React in that way, so I asked AI, maybe that's why you see the Skill Point and Artificial Ingenuity like a weird thing. But since the game is still in development and I care more about the game functionality, the Icons could wait a bit longer, when everything is more stable :]
Does that mean the icon for skill point/artificial ingenuity is just a random shape? I've been trying to figure out what the shape is. The best idea I've got is a baby in parentheses, lol.
i do find that really hard to believe, especially considering that the word "Max" is completely offcentred and the x in the settings too. the entire game also just has that ai look, but I cant prove anything anyways
Yes, same for the universe. I bought everything (in few hours) now have 703qi stardust and 206qi energy in magazine (who knows how much is it as I don't understand WTF units) if anything will be added there i will buy it instantly OR it will be so expensive that new player will never buy it. :>
no idea i've bought everything in few hours after few days being stuck when you removed... asteroids ?
It's not a problem but stadust still counting right now it's 1.25sx (still no idea if it is really much :D) so i've got it and can spend for anything OR you will make new things so expensive that new players will hit the wall so... there is no good solution. :>
I got to 19 super humans and didn't want to wait 6 hours for the next one so i just edited the save file. Fun game but progress stalls at the end. The most satisfying game that I've played that is similar to this ramped up a lot at the end and you were able to purchase everything and finish the game. This game doesn't really have a satisfying end.
that's because it's still in development, I'm giving new content to it everytime I update it, it will have so much content in a future, and better balanced of course
Something seems weird. After getting the first Meta Human, the requirement for Super Humans jumped from e11 to e18. Never mind, it's because I lost the Super Human discount Data Packages.
The stage between super-humans and The Mind is really, really bad. I'm about to be able to unlock it now after 6 hours of just sitting on my ass leaving the game on and I'm not even sure it'll give me the boost I need to reach meta-humans in a decent amount of time.
The Universe upgrades don't even really do anything... 500x atoms or whatever is a drop in the bucket at this stage in the game and getting 10k T2 atom buildings is impossible.
did you meet the Stellar Nurseries requirement for the Planetary systems? Anyways, for 0.5.2 I'll make the Planetary System's requirement easier to get, I'm awared of this
it takes you to the superhuman change, but it's strange you didn't create any meta human. Mhm, you can join the discord server so you can send me your game save and I can see better what's happening
Either I am missing something or there is a massive time barrier before you can form your first planetary system. The 5k stellar nursery goal seems unreachable for me. I have 17 superhumans atm so I also can't progress to The Mind.
Same for me, was about to post a similar observation. 17 Super Humans, ~3.5k Stellar Nurseries. Progression has slowed to a crawl. Not sure what I'm missing...
I did whole thing to meta humans two times today, and i'm sure last two times (now and before) i had exactly 100SH it is why i'm asking. I've got 8 meta humans right now.
and did you completed the Constellations and stuff from the Universe that can also bring you more Super Humans? Also make sure to have the maximun Humans possible and all Super Human datapacks to get the maximun quantity
Ok it's probably accident... once again i've got just 100SH but it is because i've gained 9 and meta human cost 9, it's possible that last three times i've just got exactly that number of SH as i had to exchange to MH :)
Okay, I've been taking a look to this. Some people during the launch was wondering why the lifes wasn't growing or why it was decreasing sometimes. And now that I looked into the Cosmic Consciusness, I noticed the softcapped wasn't working. Thanks a lot for telling! It will be fixed for the next update, I'll mention you when the update releases :D
small bug: the cost of memory amplifiers doesn't change to scientific notation when using the scientific number format (the # of mind points you have does tho)
Can you make it so that you don't automatically get redirected to the subjects tab when you have at least 1 human and/or super human and over 1e27 atoms
My game's bugged out. I now have negative atoms with the the standard number format now stretching off the screen and the Prestige tab has disappeared.
If you complete all the starts of the Constellation, you can infuse Energy on it to activate the bonus. But careful! If you want to unplace the stars, you must refund All the Stars by spending 1 Galaxy Point.
For the minimun price, you can test the next updates that will come soon to the game!
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Also is it really necessary that if you cash your humans the collected SkillPoints ar resetted? Ok the SP/s is new but why what you have shouldn't stay on counter. not only for SP but for all counters.
#idea #playability
Hello, i got 10 superhumans but the universe tab didnt pop out
You need to get the universal power research.
I got it, thanks man
53/50?
Oh… same here
104/50
Shouldnt it be meta knowledge or something usefull? generation of mind points is event too fast .... it's no longer idle game :D
I agree, since meta humans (and therefore meta knowledge) are so hard to get, at least something to increase rate of gathering knowledge would be nice
On the other hand I believe next few mind milestones will give meta knowledge modificators as (how it looks) the game mechanic is created by AI and than just patched by human.
Is meta human generating slow? i don't think so it's 1-3 MH per day... pretty ok for idle game IMO
Why if the Mind bonus is the same for Humans and Superhumans it is 200 times more bonus for SH?
Hello guys, love the game but have a problem. i got the negative number popup and chose the super human upgrade and instantly got the popup again and could do another super human but now my atom generation is stuck at 0. i failed to notice it and missed the refresh window. i am at 115 super humans and mind level 178. i cant reset anymore because the subject tab doesnt pop and i am stuck with 90 humans. :( does anyone know how to fix that? thank you
Hi, so, did you chose the Super Human ascension option, and the pop up appeared again? And now the Atoms is 0?
Hello theshadowmaster, thank you for the fun game. :) short explanation: after creating a meta human (dont know exactly, it started at around ~30 meta humans) super humans creation only got up to 110, but i could instantly buy another two and then 1 (with humans (around 14,5 trillion and full data packages)) so i got up to 113 and let the game run to get mind levels with skills (and keep ingenuity gain high (3,6m/s)). today i came back to infuse with some more sx XP for mind but i had the negative number popup, i didnt want to waste the XP so i chose the super human option, but the popup came up again in a really short time so i chose it again but now my atoms stay frozen at 0 with 115 super humans and 37 meta human. PP and ingenuity are running fine, sp is running slowly (as i cant upgrade, with 2,26m/s). thank you again for keeping engaged with the community here :)
mhm in that case i should fix a little bug there. For next time, choose the reverse option which basically makes the negative positive. In most cases, the negative bug just reverses your quantity of atoms or other variables affected, but not everytime, that's why I added 2 more options. You did well by chosing the Super Humans, since it's a good alternative, but not the recommended one. I created this tab as a wall to stop the negatives to take over the game. I've been trying to solve it for months but I've not reached to solve it since the problem is bigger than I thought.
I'll solve this little bug you found. And to not to make you lose your game, you can send me your game save to me in the Discord community and I can give you 1 single atom to keep it running so you can continue playing, otherwise you'll be in that point for eternity since you can't do a lot of things without atoms!
Do you think a way to individualise which techs are being auto bought could be added, like with generator and subject purchase automation?
As is, I have turned off Super human and Life tech automation, just because some of them seem fairly useless, eg Consciousness expansion seems to be the only life tech that is really worthwhile to buy
depend on the momet, but for the most of time all but infinity project have turned off to not waste time on generating points for nothing... then i'm biuing it if price is less then is generated in 1s
is the final stage in the guide menu (the one that requires ### meta humans) actually implemented yet? or is it just teasing a future update?
It's just teasing something.
The assignment menus for Humans and Super Humans could use some tweaking. Clicking +10% over and over for uneven splits is not appealing. Maybe adding 25% and 50% options would help.
For what reason you want to split them? :> Especially humans. :> For super humans the correct split is 1 and teh rest. :D
I mean add buttons to allow plus or minus 25 or 50 percent. Since the +10% button only adds 10% of the unassigned total, the current method of adding humans to the generator bonuses becomes very tedious once you have tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of them.
Add one SH to infinite atom and ALL to infinite knowledge... done.
Add all humans to particle accelerator ... DONE *
* if you are just beginning add ALL to the place where you are generating most atoms ... anyway ALL in one place. It is possoble to put it in few places but it hase no sense at all ...
I have noticed a bug where when my prestige points would be 2.28e+118 for one prestige, it resets to 2.28e+18 and doesn't go back up. I am also unable to click on it to prestige once this bug occurs
i think this is intentional, after 1e114/1AA PP you'll get softlocked as stated in the guide tab
Is there any way to improve how many Lives/s ? I am stuck at 26.5m Lives/s which is taking forever to generate humans...
I'm improving it for 0.5.2, don't worry. Did you unlocked The Mind?
Another problem. Cant up Super Humans.... Have 94, create more 14..
I Transcendence to make a Meta, and I back again with only 94 Super Humans.
Meta Humans now requires +1 Super Human each time, so it's usual to keep spending more Super Humans when you want to create more Meta Humans if that's what you mean. I'm working for the next Alpha Update
exchange ALL your SH into MH and than create them (SH) back at once. It's much faster and cheaper strategy.
mhmhm do you mean, like a new reset? Or that's too much? If so I need to change the Meta Humans system since now you're just creating MH 1 by 1
1 by 1 but it's faster to do it 1 by 1 until all super humans are recycled to meta humans and than just recreate them also in one cycle. Mind level is the thing which is slowering it a bit ...
Im on 0.5.2 Alpha. 20.00 Super Humans did not open "The Mind" Tab...
To me too. It doesn't open. I have 24 super human
Export data, import in 0.5.1. Will open mind tab. Export again and import in 0.5.2. But will cause another problem, will raise the Stellar Nurseries prices for Planetary Systems.
I just divided the Stellar Nurseries requirement by 2, are you sure each one is now more expensive?
I think it was beacuse the export and import thing in 0.5.1, maybe it gets the older prices from 051.
I had to do it again for "Meta Humans" to appear as well. I'm currently doing "Meta Humans" 1 by 1. I noticed two bugs. After "Transcendence" to create a "Meta," the "Subject" tab just freezes. I need to hit "Ascend for x Humans" to unfreeze it.
The other bug is in the "The Mind" tab; the page doesn't remember the button selected for 1 10 100 1000 MAX.
I'm playing, but I don't know if any more tabs will appear, since the last two didn't.
Sorry for not answering properly this weekend, I'm on it now, thanks for your feedback!
Why do I have to scroll the game in the web browser, can we make the game use the entire page instead of an iframe inside of a scrollable page, its so annoying to have to keep scrolling to do anything
There's a fullscreen button on the bottom right. Click on it
I don't want to run the game in fullscreen, I use other apps, that's what a PC is for. It doesn't matter though I modified the CSS of the site to make it work, the only bad thing now is the decision to place the Universe button at the bottom of the page so I have to scroll to the bottom of the page to open the menu, inconsistant.
you can download the game, click the html archive and you'll play the game in the full page, with no fullscreen. I could also make the window for the web version wider if you want, but I can't do almost anything against that itch UI
Ah, its itch. I should have known. I didn't know you had no control over it. Sorry for bringing it up. The game is very fun, you should consider adding it to Steam.
Is it just me, or is the only thing that is really effective for mind levels is skill points? Like, ingenuity gives 10,000 times less mind points, even after saving ingenuity up for much longer.
I'm working on balancing it
I get that it evolves each time and gets faster each time, but from getting the second prestige point to getting the 10th it's the same game every time. Who wants to play that?
don't know if you're new to the genre, but that's how this kind of game usually works
oh
this looks like it was made using google ai studio
it isn't, I made it entirely. Only the one thing I used AI for is for the icons, since I wanted to make the icons with React, but since I'm not good making arts and I've never used React in that way, so I asked AI, maybe that's why you see the Skill Point and Artificial Ingenuity like a weird thing. But since the game is still in development and I care more about the game functionality, the Icons could wait a bit longer, when everything is more stable :]
Does that mean the icon for skill point/artificial ingenuity is just a random shape? I've been trying to figure out what the shape is. The best idea I've got is a baby in parentheses, lol.
i do find that really hard to believe, especially considering that the word "Max" is completely offcentred and the x in the settings too. the entire game also just has that ai look, but I cant prove anything anyways
how am i supposed to get to the mind or my first galactic point? the game randomly slowed down to a stand still
Don't you think you should reballance meta humans CPU prices?
Even WITHOUT using metahumans to speedup generation MindPoints it looks strange
from the beginning:
1. +256kB: 10^2 / 10^-2 = 10^4s / 60 = 166min / 60 = 2,7h
2. +4MB: 10^3 / 0.50 = 2000s / 60 = 33min
3. +64MB: 10^4 / 25 = 400s / 60 = 7min
4. +1GB: 10^5 / 2.5 * 10^3 = 40s
5. +1GB: INSTANT... upto x14 or even more
Isn't it too fast as for idle game? :D
Yeah the game is playable, but horribly balanced.
Yes, same for the universe. I bought everything (in few hours) now have 703qi stardust and 206qi energy in magazine (who knows how much is it as I don't understand WTF units) if anything will be added there i will buy it instantly OR it will be so expensive that new player will never buy it. :>
which part was SPECIALLY faster from the Universe? Maybe the moons and planets?
no idea i've bought everything in few hours after few days being stuck when you removed... asteroids ?
It's not a problem but stadust still counting right now it's 1.25sx (still no idea if it is really much :D) so i've got it and can spend for anything OR you will make new things so expensive that new players will hit the wall so... there is no good solution. :>
I'm sorry, which formula are you using? Thanks for your constant feedback btw it's helping a lot!
I got to 19 super humans and didn't want to wait 6 hours for the next one so i just edited the save file. Fun game but progress stalls at the end. The most satisfying game that I've played that is similar to this ramped up a lot at the end and you were able to purchase everything and finish the game. This game doesn't really have a satisfying end.
that's because it's still in development, I'm giving new content to it everytime I update it, it will have so much content in a future, and better balanced of course
LOL generating 100 SuperHumans takes about an hour.
If that game has any problem it is that it is too fast, and too easy :>
We might have played different versions. 5.1 was taking me hours to get super humans.
Same version... the online one.
do share your strat then
how did you edit the file?
Really good game! 2 minor things I would like to see in future updates.
1 The guide button feels like it gets in the way past humans were its at now and really feels like it should be at the end of the list at all times.
2 the game doesn't currently save on the browser version into the cookies so you have to load the text file everytime you close the browser
other than that minor gripe I am really enjoying the game and I've got 18 super-humans and almost got enough to get 20
Something seems weird. After getting the first Meta Human, the requirement for Super Humans jumped from e11 to e18.Never mind, it's because I lost the Super Human discount Data Packages.The stage between super-humans and The Mind is really, really bad. I'm about to be able to unlock it now after 6 hours of just sitting on my ass leaving the game on and I'm not even sure it'll give me the boost I need to reach meta-humans in a decent amount of time.
The Universe upgrades don't even really do anything... 500x atoms or whatever is a drop in the bucket at this stage in the game and getting 10k T2 atom buildings is impossible.
did you meet the Stellar Nurseries requirement for the Planetary systems? Anyways, for 0.5.2 I'll make the Planetary System's requirement easier to get, I'm awared of this
Made the mistake of cashing out on humans a little too early, now it looks like I'll need to idle the game another 6-8 hours. Fun.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I'll solve this asap ,:D
I'm not able to create my first meta human, I meet all requirements but when i try it just takes me to the superhuman page.
which version are you using?
v0.5.1
it takes you to the superhuman change, but it's strange you didn't create any meta human. Mhm, you can join the discord server so you can send me your game save and I can see better what's happening
Capped out around e35k Atoms
can you send a full screenshot of the game so I can fully see your situation?
Well, I may have also cracked past 100 super humans...
1.68T humans... wow!
I'm already working on it for 0.5.2, thanks for telling!
yes, it's sofftcapped. Now you depend on your Temporal Prestige generation
I'm sitting around almost e20k myself
and how many super humans, or are you maybe at meta?
Either I am missing something or there is a massive time barrier before you can form your first planetary system. The 5k stellar nursery goal seems unreachable for me. I have 17 superhumans atm so I also can't progress to The Mind.
Same for me, was about to post a similar observation. 17 Super Humans, ~3.5k Stellar Nurseries. Progression has slowed to a crawl. Not sure what I'm missing...
You aren't missing anything, it wasn't intended. For 0.5.2 this barrier will be way easier to go throught
Ok great, thanks :)
"Next Human Cost: 5.71e+36 Lives"
cant make humans properly anymore, i dont want to ascend for 5 superhuman
How many super humans do you have? And in which stage of the game are you?
i dont remember, though i figured out it happened because i waited too long and made bunch of superhumans at once...
so i did the reset to set their spawn price back
Oh… it's impossible to have more than 100 super humans? why?
no, it's possible with this update, how many do you have? did you installed the datapacks from the meta humans?
I did whole thing to meta humans two times today, and i'm sure last two times (now and before) i had exactly 100SH it is why i'm asking. I've got 8 meta humans right now.
and did you completed the Constellations and stuff from the Universe that can also bring you more Super Humans? Also make sure to have the maximun Humans possible and all Super Human datapacks to get the maximun quantity
Ok it's probably accident... once again i've got just 100SH but it is because i've gained 9 and meta human cost 9, it's possible that last three times i've just got exactly that number of SH as i had to exchange to MH :)
I liked this idle game.
thanks a lot for playing!! :D
it costs 12 super humans to create a meta human for me? it says it only costs one super human, i currently have 11 meta humans
Read the changes of v0.5.1. I'm sure you will understand why it costs you 12 super humans right now
ahh, makes sense, although you should probably change the in game text
There seems to be a bug when you get to 1130 cosmic consciousness you cant get more from buying more A1.
it's softcapped, since then you need more than 10 A-01 subjects to get more Cosmic Consciusness
how many, ive bought like 300 and it hasnt upgraded.
Okay, I've been taking a look to this. Some people during the launch was wondering why the lifes wasn't growing or why it was decreasing sometimes. And now that I looked into the Cosmic Consciusness, I noticed the softcapped wasn't working. Thanks a lot for telling! It will be fixed for the next update, I'll mention you when the update releases :D
Sometimes when I use the auto purchase human skills it will purchase more than 50 of the efficient engineering skill?
Right now I have 67/50 appearing as the level for the skill
small bug: the cost of memory amplifiers doesn't change to scientific notation when using the scientific number format (the # of mind points you have does tho)
"Buy 5", "Buy10", "buy50" and "buy max" are not saved along with the save game data, please make sure they are saved as well
Can you make it so that you don't automatically get redirected to the subjects tab when you have at least 1 human and/or super human and over 1e27 atoms
My game's bugged out. I now have negative atoms with the the standard number format now stretching off the screen and the Prestige tab has disappeared.
what did you do to reach that? You can join the discord server so you can send me your game save
Found some errors in the description:
If you complete all the starts of the Constellation, you can infuse Energy on it to activate the bonus. But careful! If you want to unplace the stars, you must refund All the Stars by spending 1 Galaxy Point.
For the minimun price, you can test the next updates that will come soon to the game!
oh, thanks for telling, and about the minimun price I meant 1$, which is the minimun I could input for the game, but I'll make it clear :)
I think they were pointing out that the spelling should be changed to "minimum"