Love the game but I've encountered an issue. My lives gain massively reduced from ABJ down to WB and I'm unable to purchase any upgrade that could reset them in an attempt to fix it?
I recently hit like around 18k Supernova Forges, and after that (or it may have been a little less, I didn't notice at first), I stopped being able to further upgrade Magnetic Cooling every 50 forges. I don't know if this is intended, or just an error? Mainly because my earning progression have dropped significantly (I'm like at level 65 in Mind).
Also, small suggestion, maybe have the selected option from the Mind tab, the ammount of Infusion, stay after you go to other tabs? It resets when you go to any other.
If the automation for life techs and skills could be individualised, like with generators and subjects, it would be really helpful. Is it deliberate it is like this? As is, I find myself turning off auto life techs, just because consciousness expansion seems the only worthwhile upgrade.
1000A = 1B, 1000B = 1C, 1000C = 1D ... 1000 Z = 1 AA and it loops back around every time adding another letter. 75 orders of magnitude between 1A and 1Z.
It seems as though the meta humans mind points gain upgrade either doesn't work or i just don't understand, is this a glitch, or am i just missing something?
The universe section is incredibly fast until you get to planetary systems, I bought everything in like 1 minutes before hitting a giant wall. The game is great though, I don't really care about the difficulty, just thought it was weird
you mean you unlocked the Universe and then you reached planetary systems in 1 minute?? did you had any universe upgrade from the main game before unlocking it or something?
Sorry, I think I worded it wrong, It just felt weird to me because I bought just about every planet, moon and upgrade really quickly. It was the planetary systems that took me a while, nothing wrong with it though. I just felt like I generated Stardust and Energy really quickly while getting Stellar Nursery's took a while. I almost got 20 Super-humans before my first planetary systems. Currently at 3000 Stellar Nursery's and 6 trillion energy and 14b stardust, just seemed like a weird difference to me.
My only complaint about the game is that the Universe section ultimately feels entirely divorced from the rest of the systems; when you ignore the x500k on atoms, it's entirely self-contained outside of a check on your Stellar Nursery count, seeing as how Stardust and Energy have no use outside of being spent on Galactic Upgrades--half of which feed back into the rate of return on Stardust and Energy anyway. Beyond getting over a wall and pulling some disparate and ultimately almost invisible boons in the way of a bonus to Super Human gain, Life production, and some PP multipliers, it's unrelated to the Atoms>Lives>Humans>Super Humans/Mind progression path. To be completely honest, it feels like that entire mechanic could be removed and nothing would meaningfully change, so long as the boost to atoms were integrated elsewhere; at worst, the four upgrades that actually impact anything else could be moved somewhere else, or excised entirely as well.
It is a really great game but I've reached the level 100 of "The Mind" and I don´t know what to do anymore. Also the stardust generation is really slow for the 14/15 planetary sistems (I didn't get the last upgrade of the 100x stardust and it's reaaaaally slow).
One more thing. If you go high on numbers (waiting for stardust :D) and click that yellow prestige button which does nothing at this point you will STOP lives generator for hours...
next live upgrade/anything at 10^2163, curently creating 10^1659
Stopping lives generation does not matter when you are just waiting for stardust, but it's evcen more boring :D
Super Human button stopped working for me at 32, going on 33 SH. Tried manually exporting and importing the save but that did not fix it. Refreshing the browser also did not change anything.
i've hit a time wall, its taking forever for me to progress to the mind. I only have 38 stardust and it takes forever to get more, and to get more superhumans. I have 15
to get passive stardust, you need to unlock the Sun, and then for the Mind you need 25 Super Humans, but this will change for the next update since you'll need 20 SH and the Stardust generation will be easier
Okay thanks. I've been trying to get the Sun but I don't have much stardust to do so since it's a pain to get them. Glad the update will make it easier.
Hey, I've been playing this game for a few days now (love it btw), but I was wondering when I should ascend for humans so I can finally get 25 super humans? I could ascend right now for 7.5 billion, but I thought I should ask you guys before I ascend.
I think something is busted with the level 50 of mind in the new alpha. Everytime I ascended with humans, it gave me more consciousness. Maybe it calculates the already obtained humans for every ascendance? literally broke the game in just a few ascends. went from 100b humans to 16sx and when i prestige, th epage just dies and resets to 0 prestige
I played this a couple months ago then came back to check on it and had over 530 super humans, but the growth is still extremely slow. I just reached level 50 in the mind but the unlock I was supposed to gain didn't do anything unless 1B means the number after 100A and not 1 billion. But that would mean you need so many more humans to use the upgrade. I am not sure if this is a bug or not but I think it definitely needs some looking into. Great game, cant wait for the finished version.
Something is wrong with StarDust. I am only missing the Sun, when I unlock StarDust (after Superhuman Reset) I get "you got X amount StarDust". It shows in the Universe tab. Once I get the next increase in StarDust "you got Y amount StarDust", the Universe tab shows 0. Saving/Importing save shows correct amount if StarDust, gets back to 0 when StarDust increases.
there's a softcap working there, as you can see on the changelog. It happens when you reach 1e2142 Lifes, and the requirement increases after that in some other points too. If you see it's too slow or isn't enough you can comment it! :)
I still feel something is not right. For example i have 56k A-05 subjects and i sit on 255 vital symbiosis and before I had 150k A-05 subjects with 150 vital symbiosis. My mind is on 106 level
That could happen if you didn't reset when you updated the game, because previously the softcap system wasn't working well, and now seems to be working fine
Couldnt it be something with prestige? when i prestige it bugs to 2000Z and then changes to AA after i prestige again when its softcapped. Also now i go from 1700 A-01 subjects to 2050 without a single Cosmic Consciousness
It probably starts around this point. Before reaching it, you’ll go through a small soft cap (where gaining humans becomes somewhat harder), then it gets easier again, then harder, and finally progressively easier until it “explodes.” I believe this comes from the interaction of Magnetic Cooling, Cosmic Consciousness, and Vital Symbiosis, which drives the values into a critical state of explosive growth (especially after obtaining Vital Symbiosis), since I noticed their levels reaching an absolutely insane degree.
It probably starts around this point. Before reaching it, you’ll go through a small soft cap (where gaining humans becomes somewhat harder), then it gets easier again, then harder, and finally progressively easier until it “explodes.” I believe this comes from the interaction of Magnetic Cooling, Cosmic Consciousness, and Vital Symbiosis, which drives the values into a critical state of explosive growth (especially after obtaining Vital Symbiosis), since I noticed their levels reaching an absolutely insane degree.
omg okay okay... so, for the lives I included 2 softcaps: the first one at 1e2142 lives where now you need 15 A-01 instead of 10 for +5 max levels of Cosmic Consciousness, and the second at 1e4284, for 20 A-01. You went through this and then the game exploded? I recommend you to stop grinding since soon the game will crash. Make a super human reset to stop it, since you got an amount of Supers and Mind Levels no one has reached
In its current 0.4.0 state the universe thing is really questionable. It's largely separate from the main game and, at most, only offers a *500 atom boost. (before getting the Sun anyway, which is painfully expensive)
In the universe menu The Moon Harvest upgrade in particular is just ??? in this iteration, since it's the last and most expensive upgrade and gives a boost to energy generation... with absolutely nothing to spend said energy on afterwards. It also doesn't translate to a boost to anything else.
The "buy cheapest research" automation doesn't buy the infinite researches.
This text on the Super Humans page doesn't actually tell me what it does clearly "Each Super Human assigned increases the Infinite Project bonus by 100%."
I THINK it increases the bonuses from the repeatable researches for each person added to atom drive and endless knowledge, but the percentage on the research page doesn't change. And when I take super humans off of those groups the resulting values don't change as much as I'd expect. It's also unclear if this is +100% for each super human or *2. This last part is noticeable in other parts too, some upgrades in the game are multiplicative increases, others are additive increases, and neither is marked overly clearly.
Do you know what did you do to get that? And please, send me your save via discord so I can investigate. I'm awared of this ocasional bug and I want to see what's happening there
Feature request: Time to availability (based on the current rate) for each purchase. This make it easier to judge.
Progression needs more balance. Currently crawling to get to lives and subjects, with little upgrade options to increase atoms. And grinding to try to get the 1t Temporal Prestige upgrade while only at million order of magnitude….seems like temporal prestige should be at 100mil or 1billion, 1t is too slow to get to. Same this with the Lives and Subject. Just crawling to get to at sx order of magnitude for atoms while i need oc atoms….
tldr; have upgrades earlier to avoid long grinds and keep player more engaged
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Love the game but I've encountered an issue. My lives gain massively reduced from ABJ down to WB and I'm unable to purchase any upgrade that could reset them in an attempt to fix it?
there's a problem with it right now. You're playing 0.5.1 Alpha V2 right?
Just playing the one available on on the browser. V0.50. I believe.
this happened after doing a human ascension?
Yeah. Only noticed when I was repurchasing the prestige upgrades again.
okaay, I'm investigating the situation, I hope this will get fixed for 0.5.1
Cool game, but why does your pending humans grow slower when you hit a certain number of lives
Also, i'm super excited to play the full release (v1.0.0)
well, that will take long since I've planned to add many more things
because it's softcapped, it's intentional. Each Human costs more than the previous one
Okay then. I think it's a good decision just so you don't unlock the universe and the mind straight away
Good day, I wanted to ask:
I recently hit like around 18k Supernova Forges, and after that (or it may have been a little less, I didn't notice at first), I stopped being able to further upgrade Magnetic Cooling every 50 forges. I don't know if this is intended, or just an error? Mainly because my earning progression have dropped significantly (I'm like at level 65 in Mind).
Also, small suggestion, maybe have the selected option from the Mind tab, the ammount of Infusion, stay after you go to other tabs? It resets when you go to any other.
yeah im basically soft locked on getting GP cant get enough star dust to get the final galactic upgrade
and cant get enough star dust to buy the rest of the constalations
If the automation for life techs and skills could be individualised, like with generators and subjects, it would be really helpful. Is it deliberate it is like this? As is, I find myself turning off auto life techs, just because consciousness expansion seems the only worthwhile upgrade.
constellconstellation resets costing GP makes it very easy to screw your self out of GP
But for what you want to reset it? :>
i spent them wrong at first as i did not under stand how they work
So I did… but then bought just all rest and closed the subject :D
Is getting a meta human supposed to reset your mind level?
no, it isn't, it's resetting for you?
Nope, I just wanted to make sure If I was misreading or not
I am dyslexic so its common for me
Also I am adoring the game thus far thank you for creating it
constellation resets costing GP makes it very easy to screw your self out of GP
that will be changed for 0.5.1
The production bonus from each Human decreases at 1 Trillion total Humans.
Normal trillion (10^18) or USA trillion (10^wtf)? :D
Scientific notation is allways better :D
it's intended, by that way there will be no exploits
I'm asking what's the number 10^18 or 10^12 ? :D
BTW does anyone really need that other notation? With that messy letters which means nothing? For me it's very confising. :>
oh, sorry, it's the american one, 1b = 10^9, 1t 10^12,... and it's your choice the notation you want to choose :)
Yes I can, but still not everywhere, there are places where we have to deal with WTF units ;-)
no problem when numbers are small
but how much is LHN or GND? Is it larger or smaller than MBF? :D
Anyway it doesn't really matter, if anyone really likes WTF units I'm fine with that :D
which places do you mean?
1000A = 1B, 1000B = 1C, 1000C = 1D ... 1000 Z = 1 AA and it loops back around every time adding another letter. 75 orders of magnitude between 1A and 1Z.
It seems as though the meta humans mind points gain upgrade either doesn't work or i just don't understand, is this a glitch, or am i just missing something?
can you send me a screenshot?
Wait never mind I'm just dumb
i didn't understand what mind points were lol
The universe section is incredibly fast until you get to planetary systems, I bought everything in like 1 minutes before hitting a giant wall. The game is great though, I don't really care about the difficulty, just thought it was weird
you mean you unlocked the Universe and then you reached planetary systems in 1 minute?? did you had any universe upgrade from the main game before unlocking it or something?
Sorry, I think I worded it wrong, It just felt weird to me because I bought just about every planet, moon and upgrade really quickly. It was the planetary systems that took me a while, nothing wrong with it though. I just felt like I generated Stardust and Energy really quickly while getting Stellar Nursery's took a while. I almost got 20 Super-humans before my first planetary systems. Currently at 3000 Stellar Nursery's and 6 trillion energy and 14b stardust, just seemed like a weird difference to me.
okay, thanks for your feedback! Surely I'll slow down a bit :)
tysm!!! <3
My only complaint about the game is that the Universe section ultimately feels entirely divorced from the rest of the systems; when you ignore the x500k on atoms, it's entirely self-contained outside of a check on your Stellar Nursery count, seeing as how Stardust and Energy have no use outside of being spent on Galactic Upgrades--half of which feed back into the rate of return on Stardust and Energy anyway. Beyond getting over a wall and pulling some disparate and ultimately almost invisible boons in the way of a bonus to Super Human gain, Life production, and some PP multipliers, it's unrelated to the Atoms>Lives>Humans>Super Humans/Mind progression path. To be completely honest, it feels like that entire mechanic could be removed and nothing would meaningfully change, so long as the boost to atoms were integrated elsewhere; at worst, the four upgrades that actually impact anything else could be moved somewhere else, or excised entirely as well.
The alphas for the next version add constellations to the universe that impact more of the rest of the game.
It is a really great game but I've reached the level 100 of "The Mind" and I don´t know what to do anymore. Also the stardust generation is really slow for the 14/15 planetary sistems (I didn't get the last upgrade of the 100x stardust and it's reaaaaally slow).
For 0.5.0 you'll unlock the Constellations, which will give you more bonuses to Super Humans, Stardust and more, I'm already awared of that
Oh, cool. I'll be waiting for the update then. Thanks!
where is the limit? Hope it's not close… ;D
One more thing. If you go high on numbers (waiting for stardust :D) and click that yellow prestige button which does nothing at this point you will STOP lives generator for hours...
next live upgrade/anything at 10^2163, curently creating 10^1659
Stopping lives generation does not matter when you are just waiting for stardust, but it's evcen more boring :D
OK asteroids are removed... no problem, but what is working source of stardust now?
12,77m/s if i need more than 6t is a little slow, and i've lost all stock created with asteroids :>
the source is now the moon, but don't worry, soon there'll be a new tab for the Universe. Also, how many Planetary Systems do you have?
14 amd #15 in progress but it will take millenia to finish it :D
For every 50 Supernova Forges, +5 max levels to Magnetic Cooling.
every 50? or 100? ;-)
https://streamable.com/e/ofkeou?
it's softcapped at a certain point, I'll specify it for the next update
Ok so it's not bug. fine :)
The Accelerating the accelerators feature seems to be capping out around 1750 to 1885 levels for me which I don't think is supposed to be happening?
yeah, it's softcapped, for the next update it will be better specified
SH started working again , check your games folks!
Super Human button stopped working for me at 32, going on 33 SH. Tried manually exporting and importing the save but that did not fix it. Refreshing the browser also did not change anything.
same but im at 22 SH
already solved, I made a quick update, thx for your feedback!
Ascending for super humans does not work, i already have some but pressing on the button to get extra does nothing
thx for your feedback! It's already solved, reload the page or download the game again
it is indeed, thanks
is there a softcap on cosmic conciousness? if there is, there should probably be a place in game where its mentioned
it will be added for the next patch
I think ascending for super humans might be broken b/c pressing the button doesn't do anything.Never mind, it worked now for some reason.It hasn't worked for me since the update
For me neither
already solved
already solved
reload the page, it's solved
The save import system...definitely doesn't work like it's supposed to.
it will work for 0.4.1, that will be released today
i've hit a time wall, its taking forever for me to progress to the mind. I only have 38 stardust and it takes forever to get more, and to get more superhumans. I have 15
which version are you playing?
whatever the one on browser is
to get passive stardust, you need to unlock the Sun, and then for the Mind you need 25 Super Humans, but this will change for the next update since you'll need 20 SH and the Stardust generation will be easier
Okay thanks. I've been trying to get the Sun but I don't have much stardust to do so since it's a pain to get them. Glad the update will make it easier.
uh, I cant get super humans now. I'm stuck at 17 but it says 3 more are available but when I click it nothing happens
Hey, I've been playing this game for a few days now (love it btw), but I was wondering when I should ascend for humans so I can finally get 25 super humans? I could ascend right now for 7.5 billion, but I thought I should ask you guys before I ascend.
you need 256b, but wait for the next update which will launch tomorrow, since you'll need 20 instead of 25 super humans. And thank you btw :)
I think something is busted with the level 50 of mind in the new alpha. Everytime I ascended with humans, it gave me more consciousness. Maybe it calculates the already obtained humans for every ascendance? literally broke the game in just a few ascends. went from 100b humans to 16sx and when i prestige, th epage just dies and resets to 0 prestige
I'm awared of this bug. Seems like the Level 50 softcap isn't enough. For the next update I'll fix this
my game is cooked, prestige tab missing and atoms in the negative?
prestige tab is missing because you got negative atoms, when you need 1 Oc to unlock them. Also, do you know why you're getting negative numbers?
just came back to my pc and it was like that, no idea
okay, I'll try to fix this. idk where the problem is but I can make the game to not to show negatives again
in version 4.1 still broken :(
I played this a couple months ago then came back to check on it and had over 530 super humans, but the growth is still extremely slow. I just reached level 50 in the mind but the unlock I was supposed to gain didn't do anything unless 1B means the number after 100A and not 1 billion. But that would mean you need so many more humans to use the upgrade. I am not sure if this is a bug or not but I think it definitely needs some looking into. Great game, cant wait for the finished version.
What exactly does stardust do? Other than a couple of energy upgrades?
for now yeah... it will be improved for the next patch
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Something is wrong with StarDust. I am only missing the Sun, when I unlock StarDust (after Superhuman Reset) I get "you got X amount StarDust". It shows in the Universe tab. Once I get the next increase in StarDust "you got Y amount StarDust", the Universe tab shows 0. Saving/Importing save shows correct amount if StarDust, gets back to 0 when StarDust increases.
ugh, too tedious
how many humans to get to 25 superhumans?
the last one costs 250b more or less, but don't worry, for 0.4.1 it will be reduced to 20
how many lives is that? Is 0.4.1 going to release before I get to 25 superhumas?
Maybe not, today I'll release the last Alpha version and maybe tomorrow or the day aftter 0.4.1 will be available
I am on Atom idle 0.4.1 Alpha V2 and Cosmic Consciousness stopped scaling with subjects. I get 5 for rougly every 30-40 . Dunno if i overdid it
there's a softcap working there, as you can see on the changelog. It happens when you reach 1e2142 Lifes, and the requirement increases after that in some other points too. If you see it's too slow or isn't enough you can comment it! :)
I still feel something is not right. For example i have 56k A-05 subjects and i sit on 255 vital symbiosis and before I had 150k A-05 subjects with 150 vital symbiosis.
My mind is on 106 level
That could happen if you didn't reset when you updated the game, because previously the softcap system wasn't working well, and now seems to be working fine
Couldnt it be something with prestige? when i prestige it bugs to 2000Z and then changes to AA after i prestige again when its softcapped. Also now i go from 1700 A-01 subjects to 2050 without a single Cosmic Consciousness
Temporal prestige is broken. It should generate prestige points based on current pending pp, not owned pp.
It's intentional, by that way you keep growing constantly
0.4.1 alpha
mhm did you found an exploit? Or how do you have 101 Super Humans? Maybe you got an infinite Life exploit?
It probably starts around this point. Before reaching it, you’ll go through a small soft cap (where gaining humans becomes somewhat harder), then it gets easier again, then harder, and finally progressively easier until it “explodes.” I believe this comes from the interaction of Magnetic Cooling, Cosmic Consciousness, and Vital Symbiosis, which drives the values into a critical state of explosive growth (especially after obtaining Vital Symbiosis), since I noticed their levels reaching an absolutely insane degree.
It probably starts around this point. Before reaching it, you’ll go through a small soft cap (where gaining humans becomes somewhat harder), then it gets easier again, then harder, and finally progressively easier until it “explodes.” I believe this comes from the interaction of Magnetic Cooling, Cosmic Consciousness, and Vital Symbiosis, which drives the values into a critical state of explosive growth (especially after obtaining Vital Symbiosis), since I noticed their levels reaching an absolutely insane degree.
omg okay okay... so, for the lives I included 2 softcaps: the first one at 1e2142 lives where now you need 15 A-01 instead of 10 for +5 max levels of Cosmic Consciousness, and the second at 1e4284, for 20 A-01. You went through this and then the game exploded? I recommend you to stop grinding since soon the game will crash. Make a super human reset to stop it, since you got an amount of Supers and Mind Levels no one has reached
In its current 0.4.0 state the universe thing is really questionable. It's largely separate from the main game and, at most, only offers a *500 atom boost. (before getting the Sun anyway, which is painfully expensive)
In the universe menu The Moon Harvest upgrade in particular is just ??? in this iteration, since it's the last and most expensive upgrade and gives a boost to energy generation... with absolutely nothing to spend said energy on afterwards. It also doesn't translate to a boost to anything else.
The "buy cheapest research" automation doesn't buy the infinite researches.
This text on the Super Humans page doesn't actually tell me what it does clearly "Each Super Human assigned increases the Infinite Project bonus by 100%."
I THINK it increases the bonuses from the repeatable researches for each person added to atom drive and endless knowledge, but the percentage on the research page doesn't change. And when I take super humans off of those groups the resulting values don't change as much as I'd expect. It's also unclear if this is +100% for each super human or *2. This last part is noticeable in other parts too, some upgrades in the game are multiplicative increases, others are additive increases, and neither is marked overly clearly.
Something somewhere went wrong and became an extreme negative number. Was trying to just idle till I had enough humans to reach 25 superhumans.
Do you know what did you do to get that? And please, send me your save via discord so I can investigate. I'm awared of this ocasional bug and I want to see what's happening there
No idea what happened no, had the game running in the background. I'll go see about Discord.
Feature request: Time to availability (based on the current rate) for each purchase. This make it easier to judge.
Progression needs more balance. Currently crawling to get to lives and subjects, with little upgrade options to increase atoms. And grinding to try to get the 1t Temporal Prestige upgrade while only at million order of magnitude….seems like temporal prestige should be at 100mil or 1billion, 1t is too slow to get to. Same this with the Lives and Subject. Just crawling to get to at sx order of magnitude for atoms while i need oc atoms….
tldr; have upgrades earlier to avoid long grinds and keep player more engaged